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Proper or custom JSON serialization of non-finite float values #98306
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Feature or enhancement
The goal of this feature is to allow the JSON serializer in stdlib to serialize non-finite values (NaN, Inf, -Inf) according to the JSON specification. Going beyond just conforming to the spec, we could allow for custom serialization behavior.
Previous discussion
This problem was previously discussed in #84813, and a related PR was submitted in 2019, however, @mdickinson suggested I open a fresh issue where we can discuss the implementation in-depth.
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Currently, python's default JSON serializer encodes values like NaN as-is, with the explanation being that many JS-based JSON libraries also do this, and that the corresponding parsers can handle such non-conforming input.
In reality, most major browsers do not support this type of encoding and even NodeJS(v14.16.0) acts according to the previously-linked JSON spec.
The keyword argument allow_nan makes the serializer throw when encountering non-finite values when set to true, but I'd argue it is paramount to ensure compatibility with the spec and modern browsers. Changing the default behavior is of course not needed or possible at this point.
When implementing this feature, there are two main decisions to make.
Firstly, it has to be decided if allow_nan should be extended to take more datatypes like strings and callables, or if we should create a separate argument for this functionality.
Re-purposing allow_nan would make the control over such behavior centralized, however the name is very limiting.
It doesn't say anything about other non-finite values, and without looking at the docs, one would think it only takes bool values.
Secondly, it has to be decided how far we want to take this feature.
Do we want to have pre-defined cases like as_is, throw, and to_null, or do we want to allow the user to pass their own callable? The latter is implemented by the linked PR. Having both options is also a possibility.
Overall, each combination of decisions has its advantages and drawbacks. Since I wasn't a part of such discussions before, I don't have a preference.
All I want is to see this feature get implemented, and I can create a PR once consensus is reached.
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mdickinson commentedon Oct 16, 2022
@Dzeri96 Thanks for opening the issue!
There was a fair bit of confusion in #84813; it would be good to eliminate that confusion up front here. To clarify, when you say:
An option for this already exists, via
allow_nan = False. I think you (and others) were asking for something different, namely an option to convert NaNs and Infinities to null. Is that correct?Dzeri96 commentedon Oct 16, 2022
After taking a second look at the spec I guess throwing an exception instead of producing any output could be considered conform.
In any case, yes, I'm suggesting we add options for conversion to
nullor even custom behavior as explained above.Dzeri96 commentedon Oct 26, 2022
I know the last week has probably been very hectic with the release of 3.11, but I'd hate this issue to be buried like the MR from 2019. Any tips of how to promote discussion and push this to get reviewed? @mdickinson
mdickinson commentedon Oct 26, 2022
@Dzeri96 Maybe a ping on https://discuss.python.org? I'm afraid that I'm not personally likely to have time to look at this this side of Christmas.
Dzeri96 commentedon Oct 28, 2022
A thread has been created here. Let's close this issue and continue discussion there.
pythongh-98306: Support JSON encoding of NaNs and infinities as null
mdickinson commentedon Feb 10, 2024
Re-opening this issue, since I think the discussion in the thread linked above pointed to a reasonable path forward.
There's a half-solution in #115246: it adds the
allow_nan="null"support, but not the proposedDeprecationWarning.Dzeri96 commentedon Feb 11, 2024
@mdickinson I know I promised that I'd deliver a fix for this a year ago, but some things came up... You know how it goes. I guess you took over and implemented everything needed?
mdickinson commentedon Mar 3, 2024
@Dzeri96 That's fine, and yes, I absolutely know how it goes. :-)
If you have any cycles to spare, it would be great if you could take a look at #115246 and let me know whether it seems like a reasonable solution to you.
Dzeri96 commentedon Mar 3, 2024
@mdickinson just posted a comment on the MR. Since you own the feature branch, it's best you implement my proposed changes, in case you agree with me. Let me know if I should get involved in any other way.
mdickinson commentedon May 12, 2024
The solution in #115246 is now a full solution.
nineteendo commentedon May 30, 2025
@serhiy-storchaka could you remove this from "Done" or mark this as a duplicate?
wshanks commentedon May 1, 2026
I followed links trying to understand the current status here so I thought I would pull them together in case it is helpful for others:
defaultfor unsupported floats PR: gh-81022: JSONEncoder call self.default for unsupported floats #28648One other previous work to reference is simplejson which has had an
ignore_nanoption that converts non-finite values toNonesince 2013. Its readme still describes the project as the development version of the standard libraryjsonbut I suppose features don't flow easily from it. In the previous discussion, it was mentioned that "just use simplejson" could be a solution. In the previous discussion, it was also mentioned that simplejson is the only popular json library with a feature for handling non-finite floats easily. 1To me it seems best just to copy what has been working for simplejson (just a separate
ignore_nanoption rather than adding more values to theallow_nanoption).Also, while summarizing things, I will give what I think is the main motivation for adding something like
ignore_nan(and presented most succinctly in #28648):The current default behavior of
json.dumpcan produce output that does not meet the JSON specification such that it can be loaded by most other tools (note -- this is a separate concern from whether converting non-finite floats to null is recommended by the specification, which came up in previous discussion). The main mechanism for extending the serialization to cover other types is to pass adefaultfunction but that only gets passed unsupported types. Sincefloatis generally supported, non-finite floats never get passed todefaultand there is no way to avoid getting "NaN" output other than walking the object before hand and replacing all thenanvalues.Footnotes
I am opened myself to suggestions with the "only popular" label. I will mention any other json libraries with support for customizing non-finite float output here: jsonyx through its hook feature. ↩
nineteendo commentedon May 1, 2026
In
jsonyxyou can fully customize this with a preprocessing hook:Maybe we could do something similar for the standard library?
Dzeri96 commentedon May 2, 2026
I really need to finish this issue. It's constantly on my mind but I can't find the time to finish it. Last time I attempted to do it, I couldn't get Cpython to compile at all