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Add sys.orig_argv: original command line arguments passed to the Python executable #67615
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assignee=Noneclosed_at=<Date2020-06-29.22:53:45.902>created_at=<Date2015-02-09.21:09:28.046>labels= ['interpreter-core', 'type-feature', '3.10']
title='Add sys.orig_argv: original command line arguments passed to the Python executable'updated_at=<Date2020-06-29.22:53:45.901>user='https://github.com/jgehrcke'
The command string does not get exposed anywhere, AFAIK, so it is inaccessible from within Python programs. There might be application scenarios in which it is useful to access the command string, such as for debugging purposes. One scenario is when a Python session should be able to "re-spawn" itself in a subprocess (I came across this question on StackOverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/q/28412903/145400)
I propose to make the command string accessible. If you agree that it might make sense, the question is *how/where* to expose it.
One possible way is to retain it in sys.argv, as in this example:
If the command was executed using the -c command line option to
the interpreter, argv[0] is set to the string '-c'.
This sentence could then be adjusted to
"[...], argv[0] is set to the string '-c', and argv[1] contains the command."
This method breaks existing applications that are started with the -c method and that consume command line arguments in a sys.argv[1:] fashion. The tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py all pass, however.
A second method would be to change sys.argv[0] from '-c' to '-c command'. This would break existing applications that check for sys.argv[0] == 'c'.
A third method would be to leave sys.argv as it is, and expose the command with a new attribute in the sys module.
I have attached a patch for variant 1 (passes all tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py), to demonstrate which code is affected: the translation from the "real" argv to sys' argv is triggered in Modules/main.c. The patch does not change behavior of '-m' (it's funny, however, that the current version of main.c at first replaces the module string with '-m', whereas the runpy module later on replaces '-m' with the path to the module file anyway.).
As a side node, I figure that the sys.argv documentation should be adjusted to properly reflect the -m behavior, which is:
sys.argv must not be changed. It would break too many Python applications.
*If* we decide to expose the command line parameter in Python, we can
add a new variable like sys.command for example. "command" name in
used in the C code of Python, and also comes from "c" of "-c".
krivushinme commented on Feb 10, 2015
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Hello, I have find some workaround to get actual argv, but it broken:
python -c 'import ctypes; argv = ctypes.POINTER(ctypes.c_char_p)(); argc = ctypes.c_int(); ctypes.pythonapi.Py_GetArgcArgv(ctypes.byref(argc), ctypes.byref(argv)); print([argv[i] for i in xrange(0, argc.value)])'
And this will output:
['python', '-c', '-c']
May be we just need to fix this behaviour, due this is error, as far as i can see. But may broke something.
jgehrcke commented on Feb 10, 2015
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Victor,
I support the idea of sys.command. However, it would be unpopulated most of the time (e.g. set to None by default). Now, is that something we should push forward or not? I would work on a patch, but we should have an agreement first, I guess.
Mihail,
the original argv becomes modified in the very early bootstrap phase, and the command gets lost within that process: it gets *overwritten* with "-c", which is exactly why you are observing two "-c". This happens here:
So, no, without a code change in main.c there will be no way to retain the command for later usage.
krivushinme commented on Feb 10, 2015
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Jan-Philip, yes, I see that Main.c needs modification, but we can fix orig_argv with not just assignment but with full copy. So then we can get unmodified argv.
Rather than add a variable to sys that will be empty 99% of the time, I think I'd rather stick a '__command__' constant in the __main__ module namespace when running with '-c' (think of '__file__'). You could then get at it elsewhere with 'from __main__ import __command__' (probably wrapped in a try/except ImportError, since it will usually not exist).
This should probably be discussed on python-ideas.
(Removing all versions but 3.5, as this is a feature request.)
See also bpo-14208 "No way to recover original argv with python -m". For the specific case of python -m, the original argument has been available as __main__.__spec__.name since Python 3.4.
I marked bpo-15577 "Real argc and argv in embedded interpreter" as duplicate of this issue: my PR 20729 allows embedders to set PyConfig.orig_argv which becomes sys.orig_argv.
changed the title [-]Python should expose command when invoked with -c[/-][+]Add sys.orig_argv: original command line arguments passed to the Python executable[/+]on Jun 8, 2020
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jgehrcke commentedon Feb 9, 2015
When Python is invoked with the
-c commandswitch, the command string does not get exposed in sys.argv:The command string does not get exposed anywhere, AFAIK, so it is inaccessible from within Python programs. There might be application scenarios in which it is useful to access the command string, such as for debugging purposes. One scenario is when a Python session should be able to "re-spawn" itself in a subprocess (I came across this question on StackOverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/q/28412903/145400)
I propose to make the command string accessible. If you agree that it might make sense, the question is *how/where* to expose it.
One possible way is to retain it in sys.argv, as in this example:
The current sys.argv docs say
This sentence could then be adjusted to
"[...], argv[0] is set to the string '-c', and argv[1] contains the command."
This method breaks existing applications that are started with the -c method and that consume command line arguments in a sys.argv[1:] fashion. The tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py all pass, however.
A second method would be to change sys.argv[0] from '-c' to '-c command'. This would break existing applications that check for sys.argv[0] == 'c'.
A third method would be to leave sys.argv as it is, and expose the command with a new attribute in the sys module.
I have attached a patch for variant 1 (passes all tests in Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py), to demonstrate which code is affected: the translation from the "real" argv to sys' argv is triggered in Modules/main.c. The patch does not change behavior of '-m' (it's funny, however, that the current version of main.c at first replaces the module string with '-m', whereas the runpy module later on replaces '-m' with the path to the module file anyway.).
As a side node, I figure that the sys.argv documentation should be adjusted to properly reflect the -m behavior, which is:
$ ./python -m testmodule foo testmodule sys.argv: ['/data/local/pythondev/pythontip/cpython/testmodule.py', 'foo']Let me hear your comments, and I am willing to work on code and doc patches, thanks!
vstinner commentedon Feb 9, 2015
sys.argv must not be changed. It would break too many Python applications.
*If* we decide to expose the command line parameter in Python, we can
add a new variable like sys.command for example. "command" name in
used in the C code of Python, and also comes from "c" of "-c".
krivushinme commentedon Feb 10, 2015
Hello, I have find some workaround to get actual argv, but it broken:
python -c 'import ctypes; argv = ctypes.POINTER(ctypes.c_char_p)(); argc = ctypes.c_int(); ctypes.pythonapi.Py_GetArgcArgv(ctypes.byref(argc), ctypes.byref(argv)); print([argv[i] for i in xrange(0, argc.value)])'
And this will output:
['python', '-c', '-c']
May be we just need to fix this behaviour, due this is error, as far as i can see. But may broke something.
jgehrcke commentedon Feb 10, 2015
Victor,
I support the idea of sys.command. However, it would be unpopulated most of the time (e.g. set to None by default). Now, is that something we should push forward or not? I would work on a patch, but we should have an agreement first, I guess.
Mihail,
the original argv becomes modified in the very early bootstrap phase, and the command gets lost within that process: it gets *overwritten* with "-c", which is exactly why you are observing two "-c". This happens here:
https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/default/Modules/main.c#l684
So, no, without a code change in main.c there will be no way to retain the command for later usage.
krivushinme commentedon Feb 10, 2015
Jan-Philip, yes, I see that Main.c needs modification, but we can fix orig_argv with not just assignment but with full copy. So then we can get unmodified argv.
zware commentedon Feb 10, 2015
Rather than add a variable to sys that will be empty 99% of the time, I think I'd rather stick a '__command__' constant in the __main__ module namespace when running with '-c' (think of '__file__'). You could then get at it elsewhere with 'from __main__ import __command__' (probably wrapped in a try/except ImportError, since it will usually not exist).
This should probably be discussed on python-ideas.
(Removing all versions but 3.5, as this is a feature request.)
vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
I marked bpo-29857 as a duplicate of this issue.
vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
See also bpo-14208 "No way to recover original argv with python -m". For the specific case of
python -m, the original argument has been available as__main__.__spec__.namesince Python 3.4.vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
Many names have been proposed:
I chose "sys.orig_argv" attribute name with the documentation:
The list of the original command line arguments passed
to the Python executable.
vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
I marked bpo-15577 "Real argc and argv in embedded interpreter" as duplicate of this issue: my PR 20729 allows embedders to set PyConfig.orig_argv which becomes sys.orig_argv.
vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
Example of sys.orig_argv usage to re-execute the Python process with different options:
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Example coming from discussions on the PEP-597 :-)
Output:
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vstinner commentedon Jun 8, 2020
My implementation (PR 20729) is based on bpo-40910 change which added a private PyConfig._orig_argv member to fix Py_GetArgcArgv().
[-]Python should expose command when invoked with -c[/-][+]Add sys.orig_argv: original command line arguments passed to the Python executable[/+]vstinner commentedon Jun 23, 2020
The setproctitle project uses Py_GetArgcArgv() and would benefit of PyConfig.orig_argv, see:
vstinner commentedon Jun 29, 2020
New changeset dd8a93e by Victor Stinner in branch 'master':
bpo-23427: Add sys.orig_argv attribute (GH-20729)
dd8a93e
vstinner commentedon Jun 29, 2020
I added sys.orig_argv to the master branch (future Python 3.10).
pkit commentedon Oct 4, 2024
Nice idea! Unfortunately in an OSX
.venvthe "original"sys.orig_argvis not really original...I can use
os.environ["_"]but it's a workaround.vstinner commentedon Oct 5, 2024
Please open a new issue, this one is closed.
pkit commentedon Oct 5, 2024
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